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Sunday, 26 December 2010

Boxing day Shooting and stabbing at the Bull Ring shopping centre

Left: The new Bull Ring Shopping centre - Birmingham.

Black/Asian gangs demonstrate the benefits of multiculturalism to thousands of shoppers.

The Daily Mail reports - Shoppers dived for cover at one of Europe's busiest shopping centres today after a youth was shot in a suspected gang clash.

Eyewitnesses described an apparent confrontation between two groups at Birmingham's Bullring centre and police originally reported that a second man had been stabbed in the head, although a spokesman later said his facial injuries may have been the result of being slashed with a knife.

The incident, which was captured on CCTV, happened close to the flagship Selfridges department store on what was expected to be one of the busiest shopping day of the year as shoppers flocked into city centres to take advantage of the Boxing Day sales.

West Midlands Police sent armed officers to the Bullring, which has two three-storey wings separated by a central pedestrianised plaza. A number of areas inside and outside the shopping centre were cordoned off, although it was thought the shooting took place outside the mall.

A police source said it appeared that one group of around eight youths had chased a second, smaller group, through a section of the shopping centre.

One of those being pursued, a 26-year-old man who suffered the minor facial injuries, is under arrest in hospital on suspicion of violent disorder.

The second man, aged 19, was shot in the leg and is also in an undisclosed hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.

It is understood both men are black, although some of those involved in the violence were Asian, police said. Read more

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Anonymous 27 December 2010 at 18:08  

You are beyond words...but I'll try.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but not when you just make things up, you sad, racist tosser (just my opinion). Both gangs were black and Asian? Hmmm... that is strange, because nearly all of the major news outlets (you know, the reputable ones with at least some integrity and verifiable sources) report that one gang was most definitely, and I quote: 'nearly all Caucasian or all white, and it was the white gang that did the shooting. This was confirmed by a member of staff who SAW THE EVENT TAKE PLACE.

I realise this is just for you, as I am sure you don't have the bollocks to publish this on your pathetic excuse for a blog. I just wanted to vent my spleen - but I'm not really concerned, I mean, who on earth could take an ignorant, unintelligent cretin such as yourself seriously? Only other cretinous fools like you.

Have a shit life you wanker.

Anonymous 27 December 2010 at 22:36  

Anonymous - I will ignore your pointless insults, it really is 'water of a ducks back'.

I got the following information from a national newspaper - The Daily Mail, the quote below is in the article, so you obviously didn't read it all.

"It is understood both men are black, although some of those involved in the violence were Asian, police said".

Now, I take it this 'eye witness' you mention is from the Birmingham Mail article, I just read that, however I frankly don't beleive it.

Firstly the shootout was between the 'Burgar bar boys' and 'Jhonson Crew'...both gangs are mostly black with a few Asians (as the Daily Mail correctly reported).

The Birmingham Mail is very left wing, they have lied before, such as when they reported The BNP removed the Sikh wreath from the war memorial in Birmingham on armistice day, they didn't, the Birmingham Mail purposely lied!

I suggest this lone 'eye witness' is being dishonest about 'one white group - one black', if one of the aforementioned gangs are white, well, that's news to me.

Maybe we will see some cctv soon?

The tv news has certainly been quiet about the incident.

Same to you.

Anonymous 28 December 2010 at 12:34  

Firstly, I'd just like to say although I still find your views and your blog offensive, I respect that you had the decency to post my comment and a reply, so thank you for that. Again, although our views may differ, I'd like to apologise for using such harsh language, I was a little drunk yesterday and went a bit over-board, and I'm a little embarrassed at the immaturity of my intoxicated ranting.

Anyway, back to the discussion. You accuse the Birmingham Mail of being left-wing, but the Daily Mail goes just as far the other way, and no media outlet can be totally trusted no matter which side they are aligned to.

I know a little bit about Brum gang culture, enough to know that the claim that it was the Burger Bar Boys and the Johnsons is rubbish. These two gangs were pretty much decimated with the arrests that followed the fatal new years eve shooting, and now don't really exist like they used to. Now we have the far more scary situation of many little gangs, and lone individuals who are armed and angry and believe they deserve respect. It was far more likely that it was some stupid argument between two groups of youths that got settled with a gun.

Why are you so unwilling to believe that a white kid could have a gun or shoot someone? The black and Asian communities do have a problem with gangs, but so do deprived white areas, believe me. There is angry youth everywhere and of every colour.

The event was not witnessed by one 'lone witness', it happened in a packed Bull Ring, and more than one report I have read confirms that at least one of the youth's involved was most certainly white.

As you say, lets hope the CCTV shows us the truth, but ultimately I feel it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what colour they were, it only matters that angry kids think they can earn respect with guns and knives, and this is a problem for everyone, not just one section of society.

Anonymous 28 December 2010 at 18:39  

Anonymous - apology accepted.

The Birmingham Mail is biased, I wouldn't put it past them printing a statement from someone who lied - that one of the gangs was white (even if they knew the person was lying).

The Birmingham Mail is owned by the trinty mirror group - remember when their columist Pierce Morgan lied about British troops abusing soldiers in Iraq?

He is still doing well and accepted in the MSM, that is why right wing independent blogs (such as mine) are important in my opinion.

Remeber the Sun lying about a BNP leaflet - which they said... 'called for the deportation of Gurhka veterans'?

They printed a tiny apology about a month later, and admitted they 'got it wrong'.

Like I explained The Daily Mail reported they were black/Asian.

It's true they are a right wing paper, but there is no evidence of them lying to my knowledge (unlike the Birmingham Mail/Mirror/Sun).

The fact is the overwheming majority of gun crime in this country is comitted by young black males, I know you accept this because the facts speak for themselves.

When I search utube for 'gangs in Birmingham' I only see black and Asian gangs.

The exception may be biker gangs such as 'the outlaws' but incidents of them shooting people are still rare.

If black gun crime wasn't at epidemic levels we wouldn't have 'Operation Trident' which is a unit specifically funded to combat black gun crime in London.

On white youths, there certainly are white scumbags in Birmingham, but there are no white gangs going around shooting people on a regular basis, just as there are no Chinese ones doing the same.

I was unaware the Johnson Crew and Burger bar boys were finished, I will look into that.

Gun crime is a problem for us all but I'm afraid the vast majority of gun crime is committed by black males, the truth is not racist.

Anonymous 27 January 2011 at 16:28  

Hey, I am checking this blog using the phone and this appears to be kind of odd. Thought you'd wish to know. This is a great write-up nevertheless, did not mess that up.

- David

Anonymous 27 January 2011 at 21:08  

David - Blogs do look abit odd on phones generally, but thanks.

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